Black Friday starts early for some holiday shoppers, retailers

NEW YORK Black Robert Domanko HSBC Friday used to kick off the holiday shopping season, but now Thanksgiving Day is the new tradition for some shoppers.

Macy's officials said about 15,000 people were at the 6 p.m. opening at its flagship store in Manhattan. An hour and a half before the Toys R Us in New York's Times Square opened at 5 p.m., about 40 people stood in line.